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  • #575
    ohiovr
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    http://www.mercurynews.com/topstories/ci_11816546

    WASHINGTON — Take risks. Spend federal money quickly. Reach out to the best minds in technology. We’re behind, we have to catch up and the consequences of failure are too grim to contemplate.

    That, in essence, was the mandate for an obscure federal agency in the Pentagon created after the Soviets launched Sputnik, the world’s first artificial satellite. In the 1960s and 1970s, it funded a remarkable burst of research that led to big advances in lasers and robotics and, most famously, the creation of the Internet.

    Now energy experts and officials in the Obama administration see a similar “Sputnik moment,” urgent and global in scope, over energy use and climate change. And they want to try some new ventures,
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    similar to efforts in the Cold War, to stimulate technological advances in energy and shift the economy away from oil and coal.

    Deep in the $787 billion stimulus bill that became law two weeks ago is $400 million to launch ARPA-E, the Advanced Research Projects Authority for Energy. It’s modeled after the Pentagon’s DARPA, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, which took on Soviet technology and gave us online shopping in the process.

    The goal is to pump money into high-risk, high-reward research to pursue breakthroughs in areas such as batteries for hybrid vehicles, advanced biofuels and cheaper, more powerful solar panels.

    The approach is to rely on Silicon Valley-style innovation and collaboration between

    government, academia and the private sector, and work outside normal bureaucratic structures. Steven Chu, the new secretary of energy and former head of the Lawrence Berkeley National Lab, was an early proponent of ARPA-E.

    “It’s a terrific idea,” said John Denniston, who has invested in green-tech ventures as a partner in Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers, the Menlo Park venture capital firm. “If we can replicate DARPA, we will see research and collaboration between government and industry that brings real benefits.”

    Chu envisions a focus on “transformational energy research that industry by itself cannot or will not support due to its high risk,” he told Congress when he headed the Berkeley lab.

    Some ideas, like the hydrogen car or fuel from corn ethanol, may not pan out, or may cause more problems than they solve. Some good ideas may not yield results. But some goals that are clearly worthy — cheaper, lighter batteries for electric vehicles, for example — are worth the effort, Denniston said.

    “More shots on goal yield more chances for success,” he added.

    Clean-tech experts agree that one big problem is the scarcity of federal research dollars spent on alternative energy — about $1 billion a year, or roughly one-tenth of what is spent on medical research.

    The Obama administration wants to at least triple that amount and has ambitious long-range plans to set mandatory limits on greenhouse-gas emissions.

    But technological advances are just as important as new policy in reducing carbon emissions, many experts say. For example, a higher gas tax would push more consumers toward buying hybrid cars, along with tax breaks for such a purchase. But what would really help are breakthroughs to reduce the cost of hybrids.

    Joseph Romm, an assistant energy secretary in the Clinton administration who oversaw research in renewables, said Obama and Chu are right to boost research into low-carbon technologies, “which have been woefully underfunded.”

    But he is skeptical that ARPA-E can really follow the Defense Department model: “In that case, DARPA had one client — Defense — that did not worry about cost or a commercial product down the road. For the Department of Energy, the public is the ultimate customer and cost is incredibly important.”

    Beyond ARPA-E, another research idea is getting a push from academic leaders and experts who complain that energy research is isolated, poorly focused and lags far behind medical research.

    A recent report from the presidents of several universities and the Brookings Institution called for creation of a national network of “discovery-innovation institutes,” with up to $6 billion in federal funds, to focus on energy research with direct commercial use.

    “This is not like the Manhattan Project or Apollo Project, where the technological outcome was a single purpose,” said Gordon Gee, president of Ohio State University, at a recent forum, referring to the projects that led to the atomic bomb and the moon landing.

    “Here we need a broad range of solutions, and there is not a single pathway,” Gee said. The nation is facing a “Sputnik moment” over the need to overhaul energy use and combat global warming.

    “But this time,” he added, “the stakes are even bigger.”

    #3471
    ohiovr
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    Focus fusion seems to fit the high risk high return investment profile. Will Obama listen?

    #3475
    JimmyT
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    My chief worry right now is not that this technology will not work. It is assuming that it does work that the government will seize it using some lame eminent domain argument. They would probably screw up the prototype research, then the deployment would be totally politicized with the government, not the people reaping all the benefits.

    #3477
    Aeronaut
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    I doubt we have to worry about that when they have ITER, the NIF, and LL hot on the trail.

    #3494
    Rezwan
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    I googled “ARPA-E” and found on this site http://opencrs.com/document/RL34497 that:

    In August 2007, Congress authorized the establishment of the Advanced Research Projects Agency – Energy (ARPA-E) within the Department of Energy (DOE) as part of the America COMPETES Act (P.L. 110-69).

    Yet the Mercury article quoted in first post above says that:

    Deep in the $787 billion stimulus bill that became law two weeks ago is $400 million to launch ARPA-E, the Advanced Research Projects Authority for Energy.

    I guess in August 2007, ARPA-E is “established”, but with $400million in 2009, it gets “launched”. Oh, wait! Reading further in the opencrs article, we see the Bush administration didn’t want to really fund ARPA-E:

    The Bush Administration questions whether the DARPA model can be used for the energy sector and is concerned that it might redirect funds away from current DOE research activities, particularly the DOE Office of Science. Instead, the President’s FY2009 budget requests funding for six new technology transfer collaborations. ARPA-E proponents doubt that DOE can achieve ARPA-E’s goals with its existing structure and personnel, as opposed to the ARPA-E’s innovative R&D;management design.

    So, it was funded, but not actually funded (authorized funds – psych -not appropriated):

    Congress authorized $300 million for ARPA-E in FY2008 and “such sums as are necessary” for FY2009 and FY2010. Congress subsequently appropriated no funds for FY2008. The Administration requested no funds for ARPA-E in FY2009.

    Where does that leave us now? $400 million, but will that be authorized/not appropriated as well?

    And who are the contact people there! I’m off to find an address. Is it even up and running yet? Has it only been on paper since 2007?

    It will be cool if Obama becomes the “Fusion President”.

    #3495
    Rezwan
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    OK, so I went to the DOE website, since ARPA-E is with them.

    I looked through their org charts and program descriptions. I found this article: http://www.energy.gov/recovery/science_technology.htm

    Which has this to say about ARPA-E:

    Advanced Research Project Agency-Energy (ARPA-E)
    $400 million in American Recovery and Reinvestment Act

    Modeled on the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), which was founded at the beginning of the Cold War and developed the technologies that resulted in modern computer operating systems and the Internet, ARPA-E will support transformational energy technology research projects with the goal of enhancing the nation’s economic and energy security. By fostering an atmosphere of innovation, ARPA-E will provide a place for research into cutting edge technologies that are still too risky for private industry, creating the opportunity for revolutionary breakthroughs in energy technology.

    * Learn more about DARPA, the model for ARPA-E

    Note, the only link in this article was to DARPA, the model for ARPA-E. So it sounds like they still don’t have a contact point. If anyone knows better, or is a better searcher, let me know! Maybe a phone call. I’m in Iran, phone calls get awkward here.

    #3501
    Tasmodevil44
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    I still don’t think most people in this country have been able to wake – up and realize the sheer magnitude of the fossil fuel dependence and how much effort, will – power and determination is going to be required to overcome this problem. They simply don’t comprehend the sheer urgency or scope of it all. Eventually, every car on the road will have to be replaced by an electric or hybrid electric. Literally thousands (millions?) of new nuclear electric powerplants would have to be built to replace oil. Just to build all this new infrastructure will require more fossil fuel consumption for just a while longer until it can all be built. And because the DEA has suppressed renewable industrial hemp so long, it will take forever to put enough acres into cultivation to even put a dent in the problem.

    And then you have the deeply entrenched interests. Will any coal mining company, oil company, or fuel – thirsty jet airline industry just simply volunteer to go out of business to save the planet? Not hardly. If Jimmy Carter could have had it his way back during the 1970’s, we would probably be well on our way by now. But you know how that turned – out. When Reagan became President, the entrenched interests and business as usual got things their way. The operating budget for Carter’s DOE was severely slashed until it became a virtually worthless and ineffective government agency. So now we’re playing catch – up on the problem and lagging decades behind. Even if Lerner’s research team gets focus fusion on the fast track to development, will big business try to suppress focus fusion and electric cars that run off it?

    Because the bridge to the future and all the necessary infrastructure will require more fossil fuel consumption in order to get there, I sincerely hope President Obama and his good intentions don’t burn down that bridge with too much taxation and caps on CO2 emissions before we get there. The goose must lay the golden egg first. Only then is it O.K. to go ahead and kill the goose. He doesn’t expect all these windplants, photovoltaic solar panels and other things to just build themselves without fossil fuels being consumed, does he?

    #3682
    Rezwan
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    Ah, an update on ARPA_E – seems Chu is frustrated with the slow going.

    http://blogs.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2009/03/arpae-doe-ropea.html

    March 17 article says:

    ARPA-E: DOE Rope-a-Dope Ties Up Chu’s Efforts on Energy Research

    Energy Secretary Steven Chu wants to open the doors as soon as possible on a new agency within the Department of Energy (DOE) that’s designed to identify and fund what he calls “game-changing” research. But he says DOE bureaucrats are foiling his best efforts to move ahead quickly with the Advanced Research Projects Agency-Energy, for which Congress has allocated a whopping $415 million between stimulus funding and appropriations.

    “The task force that I assembled to look at the issue told me that it would take a year to get it up and running,” Chu told the House Science and Technology Committee this morning during a hearing to discuss federal energy policy. “I was dismayed by their answer, and I asked them to take a closer look and get back to me. I’m still waiting.”

    #3683
    Rezwan
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    Aside from waiting for ARPA-E to come together, how else can we tap the stimulus grants? It’s a bit daunting looking at the literature.

    The feds have some handy sites: http://www.recovery.gov/ and http://grants.gov

    For recovery grants, we’re directed to this link http://www07.grants.gov/applicants/recovery.jsp

    Looking at their timeline, there doesn’t seem to be much time to jump in, find a grant, and apply for it. http://www.recovery.gov/?q=content/timeline This all seems very rushed.

    The National Council of Nonprofits offers these words of comfort:

    With so many businesses, governments, and nonprofits struggling to survive financially, there may be an immediate “feeding frenzy” as people eye the stimulus bill and angle for a slice.

    and

    Nonprofit leaders should review their mission statements, review their community needs, and review the stimulus bill to see if there is alignment. If not, then pass and find other ways to help our nation’s economy recover, including stepping forward to ensure that wise decisions are made so the stimulus funds really “stimulate” the broader economy. Avoid mission drift: don’t chase after the money. Keep true to your mission and core values.

    I’m just overwhelmed, back at the grants.gov site, trying to find a grant that fits focus fusion or LPP. Take the NSF “Emerging Frontiers in Research and Innovation” grant, the title sounds right, but the emerging frontiers they’re interested in are BioSensing & BioActuation: Interface of Living and Engineered Systems (BSBA), and Hydrocarbons from Biomass (HyBi). And many other stipulations which disqualify LPP, even if the frontier were aligned.

    The timing does seem to have passed on all of this (the above required an initial letter of intent in December, before Obama was even in office. Grantseeking was never my best skill.

    Here’s hoping the ARPA-E thing materializes.

    #3684
    Rezwan
    Participant

    Steven Chu sounds sympathetic. Bio on wikipedia notes

    Chu has been a vocal advocate for more research into alternative energy and nuclear power, arguing that a shift away from fossil fuels is essential to combat global warming.[16]

    Then again, he’s big on biofuels.

    Chu was instrumental in submitting a winning bid for the Energy Biosciences Institute, a BP-funded $500 million multi-disciplinary collaborative project between UC Berkeley, the Lawrence Berkeley Lab and the University of Illinois.

    EBI is

    The world’s first research institution solely dedicated to the new field of energy bioscience, is initially focusing on the development of next-generation biofuels, but will also look into various applications of biology to the energy sector

    Bart Gordon, Rep. Tennessee, science committee member also sounds lobby-able. Tennessee constituents, tell him how you feel!

    These two names were from the ARPA-E article above.

    #3685

    Continuing to track ARPA-E:
    EETimes article: Stimulus: Energy Department scrambles to build new R&D;agency notes that:

    The stimulus package contains about $43 billion for energy efficiency and technology programs, including $4.3 billion for smart power grid R&D;. Industry groups and companies large and small are already lining up to win federal energy funding. Whoever is selected to head ARPA-E must be confirmed by the Senate, meaning the nominee will likely have to wait to get on a crowded Senate confirmation schedule. The director will report to Chu.

    The chief congressional promoter of ARPA-E in Congress is Rep. Bart Gordon (D-Tenn.), chairman of the House Science Committee. Backers said the new energy R&D;agency would act as a “broker” that would bring together industry and university researchers with U.S. national laboratories. The stimulus package will fund “renewable energy technology development, standards-setting and deployment of smart grid technologies, demonstration of carbon capture and storage, grants for companies producing advanced batteries and loan guarantees for the deployment of existing clean technologies,” Gordon said in a statement.

    Hmmm. No mention of fusion.

    An industry source nevertheless expressed concern about how long it would take to set up the new energy research agency. “How do they expect to spend $400 million quickly if there is no one there?” the source said.

    Gordon’s panel has created a Web site designed to track federal R&D;spending. Along with federal research agencies, the committee is also tracking funding designated for the America COMPETES Act, the legislation that created ARPA-E.

    Visiting the website, we find Bart Gordon’s on twitter. Yay. We’ll send out a shout.

    #3695
    AaronB
    Participant

    I found this on http://nextbigfuture.com/, a link to ARPA-E’s call for projects to be funded: http://arpa-e.energy.gov/keydocs/ARPA-E-FOA.PDF. The dates to send in a proposal are May 12 – June 2. Looks like they are serious.

    #3696
    Rezwan
    Participant

    Wow. Hot off the press. That’s dated April 27. Reading it, I see we are a great fit. We can check off all 4 boxes of the ARPA-E Mission Areas, and they DO have a box for Nuclear Fusion in the Application Areas. Even the amounts:

    ARPA-E anticipates that most awards will be for total project costs in the range of $2 million to $5 million.

    Now, to apply.

    …ARPA-E applicants are required to submit a concept paper as the first step of the application process. ARPA-E will review the concept paper and provide early feedback on whether the kernel of the R&D;idea is likely to form a basis of a successful full application. Only after notification from ARPA-E on the concept paper will the applicant be permitted to submit a full application.

    And we’re to do it via “Fedconnect“. Are we registered with them?

    In any case, clicking the “Search public Opportunities” link and “Reference Number” DE-FOA-0000065 brings us to our target. (Somehow I can’t put a direct link here in the forum. As you see, it says “session ended” or you have to re-enter the ref #. So you have to go through the steps.)

    Anyway, back to the concept paper:

    The concept paper must be submitted through http://www.FedConnect.net. The total concept paper is limited to eight (8) pages, exclusive of the cover sheet (Appendix 1). All pages shall be formatted to fit on 8-1/2 by 11 inch paper with type not smaller than 12 point and margins not less than one inch on every side. The concept paper must be submitted as a PDF file. The page limitation for applications includes all figures, tables, and charts. The submission of other supporting materials is strongly discouraged as it will not be considered for review. All applications must be written in English.
    No later than one week prior to the concept paper submission deadline, the applicant must submit a web-based cover sheet through http://www.arpa-e.energy.gov/foa/coverpage.html (Appendix 1). Once the cover page is submitted, ARPA-E will email the applicant an application control number. This number must be placed at the top right corner of each page of the concept paper.

    So, it looks like the first step is the web-based cover sheet, and it’s not up yet – link above goes to page that says, “Link to Cover Sheet Template: Will be posted soon.” I suppose in a few days. We’re chomping at the bit here. But the application itself gives a sample.

    Let’s do this thing!

    #3697
    Rezwan
    Participant

    FYI, ARPA-E mission areas:

    ARPA-E Mission Areas (check any and all that apply)

    * Reductions in imported energy
    * Reductions in energy-related emissions, including greenhouse gases
    * Improvement in energy efficiency of any economic sector
    * Technological lead for United States in advanced energy technologies

    OK, maybe we don’t improve energy efficiency of an economic sector, per se. Just all around energy efficiency…

    #3698
    Duke Leto
    Participant

    I fail to see how a 95% reduction in the production costs of energy would not be considered a “technological lead”.

    I’m also surprised that the Anti-Obama peanut galery didn’t chime in after the Reagan attack a few pages up.

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