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  • #893
    Rezwan
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    Here it is in the Physical Review Letters – Dynamic Formation of a Hot Field Reversed Configuration with Improved Confinement by Supersonic Merging of Two Colliding High-β Compact Toroids

    A hot stable field-reversed configuration (FRC) has been produced in the C-2 experiment by colliding and merging two high-β plasmoids preformed by the dynamic version of field-reversed θ-pinch technology. The merging process exhibits the highest poloidal flux amplification obtained in a magnetic confinement system (over tenfold increase). Most of the kinetic energy is converted into thermal energy with total temperature (Ti+Te) exceeding 0.5 keV. The final FRC state exhibits a record FRC lifetime with flux confinement approaching classical values. These findings should have significant implications for fusion research and the physics of magnetic reconnection.

    Click on their authors tab to see who comprises the TAE team.

    #7856
    Aeronaut
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    Glad to see them publishing something, anything. Am I correct in understanding that they’re perfecting their containment fields?

    #7859
    Brian H
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    59 names. Any in particular you were noticing? Thompson?

    I haven’t bought the paper, but the abstract reads kind of strangely. I guess I just basically doubt that the FRC (or anything else) is likely to produce “stable” confinement of fusion, especially pB11 fusion.

    #7861
    Tulse
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    Can anyone translate the paper into lay terms? Or, alternatively, what does this mean for how close Tri-Alpha might be?

    #7881
    vansig
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    in lay terms,
    they’re blowing smoke rings at each other. or, in this case, ball lightning.

    some number of years ago, their web site claimed that they could create plasma toroids at ~1 atm pressure. if i recall correctly, they were attempting to fire a pair of them towards each other inside a tube. in my opinion, they’re not anywhere as close to unity as FF is.

    #7886
    jamesr
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    They quote a plasma beta (the ratio of pressure over magnetic pressure) as >7 which is very good, and is a measure of how strong (ie big & expensive) a magnet you need to confine the plasma. This compares to 0.02 for some tokamaks & upto 0.5 for spherical tokamaks respectively. This is encouraging as you can confine the plasma at a much higher density in a cheaper machine.

    Also, although the temperature they achieve is only 0.5keV, the electron temperature is 1/4.5 of the ion temperature, which is also promising.

    After the two ‘smoke rings’ or compact toroids (CT) in their language, are fired at each other they form a ~1m wide blob of plasma with a peak density of 10^20/m^3 after around 40us, which is kept stable for around 1ms before instabilities set in, and the confinement is lost.

    They say further heating mechanisms could be added such as neutral beam injectors (NBI), but I’m not sure this would maintain the favourable ion/electron temperature ratio needed for pB11 fusion

    #7897
    Allan Brewer
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    Thanks James, could you also explain the other publication noted by Rezwan at https://focusfusion.org/index.php/forums/viewthread/616/

    #7898
    Aeronaut
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    jamesr wrote: They quote a plasma beta (the ratio of pressure over magnetic pressure) as >7 which is very good, and is a measure of how strong (ie big & expensive) a magnet you need to confine the plasma. This compares to 0.02 for some tokamaks & upto 0.5 for spherical tokamaks respectively. This is encouraging as you can confine the plasma at a much higher density in a cheaper machine.

    Also, although the temperature they achieve is only 0.5keV, the electron temperature is 1/4.5 of the ion temperature, which is also promising.

    After the two ‘smoke rings’ or compact toroids (CT) in their language, are fired at each other they form a ~1m wide blob of plasma with a peak density of 10^20/m^3 after around 40us, which is kept stable for around 1ms before instabilities set in, and the confinement is lost.

    They say further heating mechanisms could be added such as neutral beam injectors (NBI), but I’m not sure this would maintain the favourable ion/electron temperature ratio needed for pB11 fusion

    So that’s a pulsed design, also? If successful, will the blob be able to generate aneutronic fusion products for the entire ~mS of stable confinement?

    #8797
    Alex Pollard
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    These findings should have significant implications for fusion research and the physics of magnetic reconnection.

    Doesn’t magnetic reconnection stem from mistaken attempts to explain solar flares without acknowledging the electric currents that cause them?

    http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=22&start=0

    Doesn’t inspire any confidence that Tri Alpha are on the right track.

    #8798
    jamesr
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    Alex Pollard wrote:

    These findings should have significant implications for fusion research and the physics of magnetic reconnection.

    Doesn’t magnetic reconnection stem from mistaken attempts to explain solar flares without acknowledging the electric currents that cause them?

    http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=22&start=0

    Doesn’t inspire any confidence that Tri Alpha are on the right track.

    Magnetic reconnection is key , as you say, to solar flares. But I wouldn’t say they are mistaken attempts. They have known for years simple resistive MHD models are insufficient to explain reconnection rates that fast, and that you at least need to consider the Hall term in Ohm’s law ie currents flowing across the field, and the differing resistivity parallel and perpendicular to the magnetic field.
    There has been quite a bit of progress in recent years modeling for example Ellerman Bombs, and how they relate to flux emergence from the sun’s photosphere.

    Here is one paper from 2002 on observations
    http://iopscience.iop.org/0004-637X/575/1/506/pdf/0004-637X_575_1_506.pdf
    And one from 2009 on the modeling
    http://www-solar.mcs.st-and.ac.uk/~vasilis/12455.pdf

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