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  • #1025
    rashidas
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    Here is a link to an article in New Scientist about nanomaterials that can convert radioactivity directly into electricity:

    http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13545-nanomaterial-turns-radiation-directly-into-electricity.html

    Would this process have an application in High Density Plasma (Focus) Fusion?

    #9080
    zapkitty
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    rashidas wrote: Here is a link to an article in New Scientist about nanomaterials that can convert radioactivity directly into electricity:

    http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13545-nanomaterial-turns-radiation-directly-into-electricity.html

    Would this process have an application in High Density Plasma (Focus) Fusion?

    What I gather from the article is that this is a fission-oriented approach which won’t be of much help to a Focus Fusion aneutronic fusion reactor… because the output of an FF is basically alpha particles, x-rays and heat.

    The coils around the FF alpha beam already convert the energy of the alphas to electricity much more efficiently… and much more cheaply… than the gold-stuffed nanotubes would 🙂

    … what this is, is Heinlein’s isotopic batteries, is what it is….

    #9109
    vansig
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    on the contrary,
    “Radioactive particles that slam into the gold push out a shower of high-energy electrons. They pass through carbon nanotubes and pass into the lithium hydride from where they move into electrodes, allowing current to flow.”

    this shower of high-energy electrons process is like what we want to see happen in the onion.

    #9110
    Brian H
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    vansig wrote: on the contrary,
    “Radioactive particles that slam into the gold push out a shower of high-energy electrons. They pass through carbon nanotubes and pass into the lithium hydride from where they move into electrodes, allowing current to flow.”

    this shower of high-energy electrons process is like what we want to see happen in the onion.

    Very interesting observation, V.; but there’s no indication, of course, that X-rays would initiate any such shower from the gold nano. But tweaking materials or geometry might do the trick.

    #9114
    Augustine
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    “Radioactive particles that slam into the gold push out a shower of high-energy electrons.”

    Was it really so hard for newscientist to say if it was alpha, beta or gamma radiation? I can’t figure out if what they made is trivial (capturing energy from alphas/betas) or worthwhile (gammas). I’m guessing that it is gammas.

    Unanswered questions:
    What happens when high energy gammas don’t hit the gold particles but hit the carbon nanotubes?
    Why Gold?

    #9116
    vansig
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    gold has lots of ground-state electrons to stand up and be pushed around. so xrays, gammas, and betas should all do that as they scatter through the medium.

    seems sorta like a shottky junction, with plenty of eddy currents near the absorption site.
    a device doing this well would run a lot cooler compared to a heat engine. but, what’s the ultimate efficiency, i wonder?

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