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  • #955
    Rezwan
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    Let’s get creative.

    There must be many ways to fund fusion. We haven’t explored them all.

    Big government, foreign government, local government, VC’s, long tail, consumer products, charity… what are we overlooking?

    #8313
    Rezwan
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    Not talking about Focus Fusion Society, the nonprofit here. That has different revenue streams: member donations, foundations, etc. This is about fusion research funding. Anyone have a link to a delineation of the usual and unusual sources of funding for bold tech ventures?

    #8321
    Aeronaut
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    Rezwan wrote: Not talking about Focus Fusion Society, the nonprofit here. That has different revenue streams: member donations, foundations, etc. This is about fusion research funding. Anyone have a link to a delineation of the usual and unusual sources of funding for bold tech ventures?

    In the unusual category, you’d be educating tomorrow’s entrepreneurs so that they build at least one fortune that helps fusion with funding and possibly engineering & technology. This is the backup scenario which assumes that today’s sources don’t pan out.

    #8337
    Brian H
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    Cut a secret $10-100M deal with a big utility to give them confidential 1 mo. advance notice of likely definitive achievement of unity or definitive proof it can’t be done. Give them a strategical leg up on the market!

    #8338
    zapkitty
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    Brian H wrote: Cut a secret $10-100M deal with a big utility to give them confidential 1 mo. advance notice of likely definitive achievement of unity or definitive proof it can’t be done. Give them a strategical leg up on the market!

    More likely the utility ensnares you with a truly massive set of insider trading violations and the resultant furor buries the actual fusion results…

    #8339
    vansig
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    Condo developers will frequently pre-sell a bunch of units, before breaking ground on a subdivision. Of course, they don’t have to invent construction methods and materials; and the units they’re selling are pretty-well known to work exactly as specified. How far away from ability to do this is focus fusion? Not that far, really.

    But there is engineering work, to do. Capture the imagination of masters and phd students, causing demand for academic courses on the science and engineering of the reactor core as well as ancillary technologies of power capture, conversion and storage. Teach those courses, giving students the drive to advance the state of the art in these areas.

    Make and sell spin-off technology?

    #8341
    emmetb
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    Propose a strategic alliance to Dick Weir of EEStor (http://www.theeestory.com/) 😉

    #9087
    Francisl
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    As long as the DPF units are using deuterium and producing neutrons, can they be used to make radioisotopes for sale? Go to page 461 of the Congressional Budget Request

    #9093
    vansig
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    Francisl wrote: As long as the DPF units are using deuterium and producing neutrons, can they be used to make radioisotopes for sale? Go to page 461 of the Congressional Budget Request

    i thought most (all?) medical radioisotopes are fission products?

    #9097
    Francisl
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    vansig wrote:

    As long as the DPF units are using deuterium and producing neutrons, can they be used to make radioisotopes for sale? Go to page 461 of the Congressional Budget Request

    i thought most (all?) medical radioisotopes are fission products?

    Here is the Wikipedia link to the production of radioisotopes

    #9159
    Francisl
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    Here are some possible federal grants that LPPX could apply for:

    NSF/DOE Partnership in Basic Plasma Science and Engineering

    http://www.grants.gov/search/search.do;jsessionid=RTq1M1PGQqbmWcTbN55NyXQGLpJVBp9GzNhNmNmh6TQhvnGR1mvp!-1744290436?oppId=48792&mode=VIEW

    U. S. Army Engineer Research & Development Center – 2010 Broad Agency Announcement

    http://www.grants.gov/search/search.do;jsessionid=RTq1M1PGQqbmWcTbN55NyXQGLpJVBp9GzNhNmNmh6TQhvnGR1mvp!-1744290436?oppId=54587&mode=VIEW

    Research Interests of the Air Force Office of Scientific Research

    http://www.grants.gov/search/search.do;jsessionid=RTq1M1PGQqbmWcTbN55NyXQGLpJVBp9GzNhNmNmh6TQhvnGR1mvp!-1744290436?oppId=51659&mode=VIEW

    Innovative Systems for Military Missions

    http://www.grants.gov/search/search.do;jsessionid=RTq1M1PGQqbmWcTbN55NyXQGLpJVBp9GzNhNmNmh6TQhvnGR1mvp!-1744290436?oppId=50251&mode=VIEW

    Research Interests of the US Air Force Academy

    http://www.grants.gov/search/search.do;jsessionid=RTq1M1PGQqbmWcTbN55NyXQGLpJVBp9GzNhNmNmh6TQhvnGR1mvp!-1744290436?oppId=49713&mode=VIEW
    #9160
    Brian H
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    Franscisi;
    Yes, those are all research-oriented. But I suspect they are all subject to the same policy and priority constraints.

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