#4935
Brian H
Participant

Henning wrote: Take a look at the Spanish electrical power supply. Last few days have been quite windy. Especially take a look at 2009-11-08 (that’s 8th of November 2009 año del dios). More than half of Spanish power production has been accomplished by wind (light green area, called Eólica). Then add 20% of other regenerative production (dark green area, Resto reg. esp.).

That energy has been fed into the grid, because the meteorological office could determine time and location of favourable conditions, and advice the other producers. No power outages occurred.

Therefore regenerative energy production is viable for Spain. If they continue their efforts like the last ten years, they’re more or less set.

Conventional energy production is a backdrop, if the doesn’t blow enough, the sun don’t shine. Nuclear (fission energy) is a money dump – you need to clean up the mess afterwards, nuclear waste and nuclear sites. Aneutronic fusion is still a dream and will as well stay that, although we’re working on it but DON’T COUNT ON IT!

So stop whining about “regenerative energy will never make it” and “there is no greenhouse effect”! Period.

Wind power can drop to 0 at any time, and is strongest when least needed (at night). Therefore there must always be 100% conventional baseload backup. It’s one of the stupidest wastes of money ever conceived. http://www.windpowerfacts.info/

A critical fact to understand is that just because a power source is an alternative, or a renewable, does NOT automatically mean that it is better than any conventional or fossil fuel source! In other words, electrical energy alternatives/renewables should not be given a free pass on common sense scrutiny, and the use of scientific methodology, in objectively evaluating their merits. …

Whether an alternative/renewable is acceptable is a highly technical matter that should be decided on the basis of a comprehensive, independent, objective and transparent evaluation of three key conditions:
a) its technical performance, b) the economics of the power produced, and c) its FULL environmental impact.

All independent evidence to date indicates that industrial wind power fails on all three of these critical counts.

Renewables are boondoggles, with very few, very limited, very local exceptions.
Spain is one of the biggest ‘dogglers: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d4201676-c4f2-11de-8d54-00144feab49a.html?nclick_check=1

More than eight out of 10 US stimulus dollars spent on wind energy farms have gone to foreign companies, according to a report by the Washington-based Investigative Report Workshop, a non-profit journalist group.

Of the $1.05bn handed out in grants so far – the majority since August – 84 per cent has gone to European companies, with the US subsidiary of Iberdrola Renewables, the Spanish company, taking the largest share.

Officials in Barack Obama’s administration say the $22bn set aside in the $787bn stimulus for alternative energy funding is designed to create or retain jobs and stimulate economic activity. But the report, shared with the Financial Times, shows the majority of jobs are likely to have been created overseas.

And if you feel like some real science, try FALSIFICATION OF THE ATMOSPHERIC CO2 GREENHOUSE EFFECTS WITHIN THE FRAME OF PHYSICS.