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  • #7962
    Lerner
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    Glad to know that efficiency is improved by the natural sorting from fast to slow ions. Peak ion temperautre is 600 keV or soo, average is somewhat lower–maybe 400-500 keV. Distance ot the coil is a free variable within engineering limits. Key problem is getting fast switches to prevent the energy from flowing back out as the pulse exits the coil. the preliminary very rough calcualtions I have done indicate that more than one stage is needed for high efficiency. Look forward to you simualtion results. What are you using?

    Oh, also average ion energy is expected to be around 2.8 Mev per nuclear charge so 5.6 Mev for He, but there will also be about 20% unburned 2.8 Mev p and 14 Mev B11.

    #7982
    Allan Brewer
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    Lerner wrote: Glad to know that efficiency is improved by the natural sorting from fast to slow ions. Peak ion temperautre is 600 keV or soo, average is somewhat lower–maybe 400-500 keV. Distance ot the coil is a free variable within engineering limits. Key problem is getting fast switches to prevent the energy from flowing back out as the pulse exits the coil. the preliminary very rough calcualtions I have done indicate that more than one stage is needed for high efficiency. Look forward to you simualtion results. What are you using?

    Oh, also average ion energy is expected to be around 2.8 Mev per nuclear charge so 5.6 Mev for He, but there will also be about 20% unburned 2.8 Mev p and 14 Mev B11.

    Thanks, I use MS Visual Studio – will couple it to an animation. I am a programmer with physics textbook rather than vice versa so will come back if I need further clarification of the physics.

    #7999
    Brian H
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    Hm. It reads to me like the basic problem, as Jimmy T says, might be rejection/reverse acceleration of the slow ions by the surge of induced EM fields in the Rogowski coil from the faster ions. That suggests to me a staged system, with each stage having inductance low enough to accommodate the slower ions, which (somehow) would then be neutralized and collected while a “kink” in the tube then receives the faster ones. A deflection field could perhaps be tuned to be strong enough to deposit the energy-drained slowest/stopped ions in a collector, but only to “bend” the remaining energetic ones into the next leg of the coil.
    That the slowest ones, by definition, arrive later will help. It would permit the planning of stages to position collection-deflectors in the most convenient manner, as the fastest ions will transit the entire sequence before being stopped, followed by the next “cadre” which would enter the second-last catchment, and so on. Each group has its own spread or range within it, so how much of a problem that is would determine how finely divided the coil would have to be into stages.

    Whether all that is possible, I don’t know.

    #8001
    vansig
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    seems to me that this is much like trying to capture the energy from a lightning bolt.

    http://www.7gs.com/becrux/2009/03/22/catching-energy-from-lightning/

    what if you get a stack of toroidal coils, of increasing inductance as you move farther from the action?
    the faster particles punch through to the last coil, but slower particles are stopped earlier.

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