Reply To: Questions regarding DPF.

[Rezwan]

Brian H wrote:
P.S.
You may recall that I once warned you that opening discussion threads on the subject of Gore-Bull Warming was asking for highly inflammatory and divisive flamewars. You said you were curious, and thought it might be fun. It seems you overestimated your capacity for amusement (and tolerance of disagreement).

And, as I recall, you were the one who brought in all the inflammatory, divisive, flamethrower verbiage!

How are you measuring tolerance for disagreement? You’re the one who simply asserts things more shrilly when you hear a different viewpoint.

My issue is that I can’t even begin to GET to the topic on which to agree or disagree, if the procedure of talking about it is the way you make it.

In other words, when faced with someone who has a death grip on their topic (“My PRECIOUSSSSSS”) you can’t really explore the topic, because they’re stuck on a position and are just re-iterating it over and over. Nothing playful or interesting about that. It gets repetitive and boring.

Also, you set up the GW straw man bogeyman. You claim that they are obstructionist and forcefully consensus seeking and their science is based on nothing. And then you conduct the mirror image of procedure. Producing reputatious reports (and if those guys’ science is bunk, then who’s to say the reports you produce are not also bunk – it’s all bunk. Science doesn’t exist), and shout down any rebuttals.

This isn’t the way to get to the heart of the matter. It isn’t the way to connect with other people. It isn’t the way to arrive at revelations about what’s happening.

What are you trying to accomplish?

If you’re just trying to get people to see what a clever guy you are, nobody’s fool, someone who can stand up to those GW bogeymen – well, OK. Maybe that’s working. Kind of ego driven. And a big “so what” from me.

You just don’t get what I’m talking about. I can tell you’re about to get defensive and slip into a position. And then hold that position by grasping at soundbites. Hard habit to break. It’s hard to see the person beyond the position.

Hmmmm.

More to say. I’ll get back to this later.