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[Aeronaut]

zapkitty wrote: Still smells cheesy to me, but working with the given assumptions…

Getting past the translation errors and obvious typos… apparently a standard 10 kwt “E-cat” unit can be expected to produce 3 to 3.5 kwe (an optimistic assumption given that it’s a very low grade heat source) and that 3.5 kwe would be 3.1 kwe net as it’s supposed to take ~400 watts to run the unit. The cost is supposed to be $2000 per kwt so a standard 10 kwt unit would cost $20,000 US.

So an E-cat array capable of producing 5 mwe would need 1428.57 units… call it 1429 units at a cost of $28,580,000

For comparison a 5 mwe FF unit is hoped to come in at ~$300,000 and comparative costs per kw/h are similarly disproportionate even given the varied estimates for FF.

So with these assumptions, and if the tech pans out, would the E-cat unit be better than fossil fuels? Hell yes, and on several fronts.

But in a market with multiple fusion sources working FF or Polywell units would beat E-cat easily in economics at the subdivision or town scale and up… and FF at least is aiming at the same sort of distributed market as E-cat.

Rossi steps hard on the idea of selling to the individual home market, which is good if only because our lords and masters would kill outright if they thought that was a possibility, but at these figures such micro-marketing may the only venue where E-cat could compete with FF or PW.

But it sure would be nice to have the choices, wouldn’t it? 🙂

I’ll believe it if I see it. Beginning with next month’s announcement. Will he provide ordering information? That sort of question. Until then, anybody can get some publicity, so only working hardware coming from a production facility through some sort of distribution network matters in my opinion. Assuming he overcomes that reality check, his price and the FF price you cited above are FOB factory. A more accurate cost for either is going to involve sales channel and other expenses, such as financing, to arrive at a true installed price for any given installation.

10kW caught my eye because that’s enough to run my house on. And even if it cost $30k installed, that’s on par with solar, but without the uglification factor of the array or the current local wiring infrastructure, which FF will not be able to eliminate on its own. If Rossi really does produce, that would expand my view of practical clean energy possibilities to Rossi for small scale installations (residential is the most obvious), FF for smaller businesses, and PolyWell for dense, large-scale applications such as defending the Status Quo.

But hearing “lords and masters” and/or conspiracy theory is a dead give-away that somebody hasn’t done their homework about how the system works, why it works that way, and why any emerging technology needs to fit itself within that system. This doesn’t mean sell out. It means design lots of ways for existing energy providers and distributors to look good and profit more by doing the right thing in our opinion. I outlined this last year on the FaceBook discussions tab.