#9731
vansig
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Ivy Matt wrote:

what is the parts list and cost?

The patent application describes the basic device. The interview linked to above mentions a price of $2000 per kW for the device. However, there are apparently some catalysts needed for the device to work whose nature has not been disclosed by Ing. Rossi.

zapkitty wrote: They claim they are awaiting patent protection before proceeding.

If Ing. Rossi wants patent protection he will have to disclose more than he has disclosed so far.

yes. failure to disclose could invalidate the patent. on the other hand, it is a common tactic used by scammers, who seek to bankroll a “patent pending” technology.

by the way, there was a technical difficulty downloading from the above link (503 Service Unavailable); but, here is an alternate
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/pdfb/documents/wipo/patent_pdf/2009/125/WO2009125444A1/pdf/WO2009125444A1.pdf

curiously, their description seems to require elevated pressure (2 to 20 bars preferred), and ß+ decay of unstable Cu isotopes, with consequent annihilation with an electron.

Looking at cost and yield of reactions in terms of mass excess, in keV, I can see that the lowest cost reaction would be
61-Ni + p +1422.9 keV –> 62-Cu; and the best yield reaction among these would be
60-Cu –> 60-Ni + ß+ +6128 keV

The minimum cost of 1422.9 keV (did i get that value right?) would seem to suggest that the fusions are rather endothermic and will occur at low probability, even at high pressures and temperatures.

At 500°C, what’s the fraction of protons with > 1423 keV energy?