Kyle wrote: Bummer, I ran into post length maximum by 200 characters on the last post. So, in conclusion to that previous post:

Bottom line opinion: we should give this approach some serious effort, as an organization, as it has huge upside to advance our mission, with only moderate downside (initial money investment—when this money could instead go directly to the DPF project).

Lots of ground.

The core issue has always been “plausibility”, IMO. As Rezwan says, getting beyond the “Pie in the Sky” reaction is very hard. FF fulfils so many wish-lists that it sounds made-up. Yet the claims are all real … as long as the base science and tech is feasible! And that, of course, is where things are right now. Getting enough data and results to swing a few opinion-leaders would be the key to all the rest.

As far as “solving world hunger”, no exaggeration at all. Agriculture is a very energy-dependent enterprise, and there are several ways in which FF would impact supply, distribution, affordability, and availability.

As Aero implies, I’d put very little hope or effort into Venture Capital. Even if they deny it, what they REALLY want to to is get an early run-up of share value, dump quickly for a hefty profit, and on to the next stock flip. In order to achieve that, they want voting control over the corporation. They fully expect 8 or 9 out of 10 of their investments to fail, but want to milk the winners big-time.

As for corporate backers, the only auto company I’d trust for an instant is TeslaMotors, because it is fully invested in pure electric vehicles. The others are just covering their butts. Maybe Mitsubishi, which is going to start pushing the Leaf this year, might be safe to deal with, I don’t know.

As for Aero’s $100Million dream, I see no place for it. It is unnecessary in the design phase, and once the proven generator is available for license to manufacturers, it is unnecessary. I don’t believe Eric wants to turn LLP into a manufacturing conglomerate; it’s a distraction from getting as many FoFus as possible made and used world-wide ASAP.