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Posted: 10 September 2010 02:06 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Let’s get creative.

There must be many ways to fund fusion.  We haven’t explored them all.

Big government, foreign government, local government, VC’s, long tail, consumer products, charity… what are we overlooking?

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Posted: 10 September 2010 02:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Not talking about Focus Fusion Society, the nonprofit here.  That has different revenue streams:  member donations, foundations, etc.  This is about fusion research funding.  Anyone have a link to a delineation of the usual and unusual sources of funding for bold tech ventures?

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Posted: 11 September 2010 02:10 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Rezwan - 10 September 2010 06:15 PM

Not talking about Focus Fusion Society, the nonprofit here.  That has different revenue streams:  member donations, foundations, etc.  This is about fusion research funding.  Anyone have a link to a delineation of the usual and unusual sources of funding for bold tech ventures?

In the unusual category, you’d be educating tomorrow’s entrepreneurs so that they build at least one fortune that helps fusion with funding and possibly engineering & technology. This is the backup scenario which assumes that today’s sources don’t pan out.

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Posted: 12 September 2010 02:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Cut a secret $10-100M deal with a big utility to give them confidential 1 mo. advance notice of likely definitive achievement of unity or definitive proof it can’t be done.  Give them a strategical leg up on the market!

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Posted: 12 September 2010 10:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Brian H - 12 September 2010 06:44 AM

Cut a secret $10-100M deal with a big utility to give them confidential 1 mo. advance notice of likely definitive achievement of unity or definitive proof it can’t be done.  Give them a strategical leg up on the market!

More likely the utility ensnares you with a truly massive set of insider trading violations and the resultant furor buries the actual fusion results…

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Posted: 12 September 2010 12:06 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Condo developers will frequently pre-sell a bunch of units, before breaking ground on a subdivision. Of course, they don’t have to invent construction methods and materials; and the units they’re selling are pretty-well known to work exactly as specified. How far away from ability to do this is focus fusion? Not that far, really.

But there is engineering work, to do. Capture the imagination of masters and phd students, causing demand for academic courses on the science and engineering of the reactor core as well as ancillary technologies of power capture, conversion and storage. Teach those courses, giving students the drive to advance the state of the art in these areas.

Make and sell spin-off technology?

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Posted: 13 September 2010 08:09 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Propose a strategic alliance to Dick Weir of EEStor (http://www.theeestory.com/) wink

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Posted: 25 November 2010 01:34 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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As long as the DPF units are using deuterium and producing neutrons, can they be used to make radioisotopes for sale?  Go to page 461 of the Congressional Budget Request

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Posted: 25 November 2010 04:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Francisl - 25 November 2010 06:34 AM

As long as the DPF units are using deuterium and producing neutrons, can they be used to make radioisotopes for sale?  Go to page 461 of the Congressional Budget Request

i thought most (all?) medical radioisotopes are fission products?

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Posted: 26 November 2010 01:52 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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vansig - 25 November 2010 09:14 PM
Francisl - 25 November 2010 06:34 AM

As long as the DPF units are using deuterium and producing neutrons, can they be used to make radioisotopes for sale?  Go to page 461 of the Congressional Budget Request

i thought most (all?) medical radioisotopes are fission products?

Here is the Wikipedia link to the production of radioisotopes

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Posted: 01 December 2010 02:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Here are some possible federal grants that LPPX could apply for:

NSF/DOE Partnership in Basic Plasma Science and Engineering

http://www.grants.gov/search/search.do;jsessionid=RTq1M1PGQqbmWcTbN55NyXQGLpJVBp9GzNhNmNmh6TQhvnGR1mvp!-1744290436?oppId=48792&mode=VIEW 

U. S. Army Engineer Research & Development Center - 2010 Broad Agency Announcement

http://www.grants.gov/search/search.do;jsessionid=RTq1M1PGQqbmWcTbN55NyXQGLpJVBp9GzNhNmNmh6TQhvnGR1mvp!-1744290436?oppId=54587&mode=VIEW 

Research Interests of the Air Force Office of Scientific Research

http://www.grants.gov/search/search.do;jsessionid=RTq1M1PGQqbmWcTbN55NyXQGLpJVBp9GzNhNmNmh6TQhvnGR1mvp!-1744290436?oppId=51659&mode=VIEW 

Innovative Systems for Military Missions

http://www.grants.gov/search/search.do;jsessionid=RTq1M1PGQqbmWcTbN55NyXQGLpJVBp9GzNhNmNmh6TQhvnGR1mvp!-1744290436?oppId=50251&mode=VIEW 

Research Interests of the US Air Force Academy

http://www.grants.gov/search/search.do;jsessionid=RTq1M1PGQqbmWcTbN55NyXQGLpJVBp9GzNhNmNmh6TQhvnGR1mvp!-1744290436?oppId=49713&mode=VIEW 
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Posted: 01 December 2010 04:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Franscisi;
Yes, those are all research-oriented.  But I suspect they are all subject to the same policy and priority constraints.

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